All students should have the right to state their beliefs. If that takes a protest so be it.
I don’t believe that have a right to interfere with the daily operations of the school, so don’t keep me from attending class or getting to my job.
I don’t believe that will be a popular take though.
Also if you want an institution to divest their holdings it makes a lot more impact if you know what the holdings are. Also understanding the rules and structures of the institutions portfolios so your protests make sense.
It’s actually really easy - there need to be clear and simple rules about where and when you can protest on campus, and these rules need to be enforced consistently. That’s it.
If a student group feels strongly enough about an issue that they deem it necessary to break the rules, then great, they can suffer the consequences for their actions and I would even admire their convictions (even if I disagree with their stance).
Those poor, pro-Hamas students, having their free speech rights "chilled" when they unlawfully take over a university building and assault school employees, spit on, stalk, harass and batter their fellow students based on their religions and beliefs, and not only shout down but publicly advocate for the extermination of anyone they disagree with. My heart bleeds for them.
Weird how FIRE doesn't seem to think a Jewish student being screamed at and threatened with violence to be a violation of that Jewish students' free speech. Funny how that works.
I'm also confused. I'm a lifelong believer in free speech. As a woman, I self censor because it's prudent to do so for my personal safety. The data shows that as well. Since men in general don't seem to be creating a more agreeable, mutually respectful platform environment, you can see why the risk increases. In challenging this narrative am I cancelling you? Or exercising the very right you think students are confused about? Don't conflate personal safety, free speech with harassment, harm violence. This is what these students are asking right? When does speech become prosecutable harm? When I spit at someone? When I lay hands of them? When is it WRONG? When the power dynamic is so absurd an idiot could see it? When protesters are surveilled for their beliefs, not their right to protest? Ferguson? The war on terror? When does thought and speech become so confused and terrifying to power that it needs to be censored or put in its place? The patriot act? Surveilling citizens? I'd like to think women would attest in solidarity to the real fear that some have. Particularly around their children. Men often get that idea WRONG. Since even in 2024, nannies are disproportionately women, and care is don't largely by women.
If I could turn back time for the number of times I've made this argument to watch insecure men meltdown, go home with bruised egos, get aggressive, demand apologies, comment on my looks, I'm sure I would have PTSD.
So why force women to opt in when they clearly don't want to? Are men confused? Belligerent?
Perhaps it's because I have a vagina that our perspectives are skewed.
All students should have the right to state their beliefs. If that takes a protest so be it.
I don’t believe that have a right to interfere with the daily operations of the school, so don’t keep me from attending class or getting to my job.
I don’t believe that will be a popular take though.
Also if you want an institution to divest their holdings it makes a lot more impact if you know what the holdings are. Also understanding the rules and structures of the institutions portfolios so your protests make sense.
It’s actually really easy - there need to be clear and simple rules about where and when you can protest on campus, and these rules need to be enforced consistently. That’s it.
If a student group feels strongly enough about an issue that they deem it necessary to break the rules, then great, they can suffer the consequences for their actions and I would even admire their convictions (even if I disagree with their stance).
Those poor, pro-Hamas students, having their free speech rights "chilled" when they unlawfully take over a university building and assault school employees, spit on, stalk, harass and batter their fellow students based on their religions and beliefs, and not only shout down but publicly advocate for the extermination of anyone they disagree with. My heart bleeds for them.
Weird how FIRE doesn't seem to think a Jewish student being screamed at and threatened with violence to be a violation of that Jewish students' free speech. Funny how that works.
Did I miss something? Examples, please.
I'm also confused. I'm a lifelong believer in free speech. As a woman, I self censor because it's prudent to do so for my personal safety. The data shows that as well. Since men in general don't seem to be creating a more agreeable, mutually respectful platform environment, you can see why the risk increases. In challenging this narrative am I cancelling you? Or exercising the very right you think students are confused about? Don't conflate personal safety, free speech with harassment, harm violence. This is what these students are asking right? When does speech become prosecutable harm? When I spit at someone? When I lay hands of them? When is it WRONG? When the power dynamic is so absurd an idiot could see it? When protesters are surveilled for their beliefs, not their right to protest? Ferguson? The war on terror? When does thought and speech become so confused and terrifying to power that it needs to be censored or put in its place? The patriot act? Surveilling citizens? I'd like to think women would attest in solidarity to the real fear that some have. Particularly around their children. Men often get that idea WRONG. Since even in 2024, nannies are disproportionately women, and care is don't largely by women.
If I could turn back time for the number of times I've made this argument to watch insecure men meltdown, go home with bruised egos, get aggressive, demand apologies, comment on my looks, I'm sure I would have PTSD.
So why force women to opt in when they clearly don't want to? Are men confused? Belligerent?
Perhaps it's because I have a vagina that our perspectives are skewed.